Asks, "What would Fox & Friends do?"; tries to always do the opposite

About the show

Hosted by social psychologist Michael Sargent, this podcast has become a place for conversation about policy and politics, where Sargent talks with people who nerd out on the topics, bringing extensive knowledge, including knowledge of the limits of their knowledge. These nerds don't have the pocket protectors and social awkwardness of nerd stereotypes. They have wit, a love of fun, and most importantly, an understanding gained from the tattered pages of journals, books, and printouts of statistical analyses, or they've been tattered by experience. As host, Sargent isn't above asking dumb questions, because he knows we all learn from the answers.

If you're looking for overconfident, ill-informed (or misinformed) bloviation, this isn't the place for you. (But maybe Fox & Friends is.) If that's the opposite of what you want, then stick around.

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  • Episode 63: Tripwire (w/ Peter Margulies)

    November 13th, 2020  |  35 mins 52 secs
    biden, national security, presidency, transition, trump

    A discussion of the presidential transition, Trump's resistance to that transition, and the hazards presented.

  • Episode 62: Hard Knocks (w/ Seth Masket)

    November 8th, 2020  |  49 mins 11 secs
    elections, political parties, political science, politics, race, voting

    My conversation with political scientist Seth Masket about political parties, and the lessons they learn from losing (and sometimes winning).

  • Episode 61: Legitimate Authority (w/ Sara Benesh)

    October 30th, 2020  |  32 mins 42 secs
    amy coney barrett, courts, legitimacy, politics, supreme court

    A conversation with political scientist Sara Benesh, on the Amy Coney Barrett confirmation, partisan maneuvers, and the legitimacy of the courts.

  • Episode 60: Pass the Torch (w/ Jean Rhodes)

    October 6th, 2020  |  44 mins 27 secs
    developmental psychology, gender, marginalized youth, mentoring, mentorship, race, youth

    My conversation with psychologist Jean Rhodes about mentorship of young, often marginalized, young people.

  • Episode 59: Hazardous Conditions (w/ Doug McConnell)

    September 14th, 2020  |  45 mins 49 secs
    covid-19, ethics, hazard pay, pandemic, philosophy

    When colleges and universities open to in-person instruction during a pandemic, which employees, if any, should receive hazard pay? My guest and I discuss.

  • Episode 58: The Seamless Garment Goes On

    September 10th, 2020  |  41 mins 15 secs
    abortion, black lives matter, catholic, politics, pro-life, race, reproductive rights

    Another chat with Father James Martin

  • Episode 57: The Seamless Garment (Pro-Life Politics, w/ Fr. James Martin)

    August 10th, 2020  |  32 mins 24 secs
    abortion, black lives matter, catholic, politics, pro-life, race, reproductive rights

    My conversation with Father James Martin, in which we discuss what it means to be truly pro-life.

  • Episode 56: When They Hit You (w/ Omar Wasow)

    July 16th, 2020  |  1 hr 7 mins
    nonviolent, protest, racism, research, resistance, violent

    My conversation with Princeton political scientist Omar Wasow, as we discuss his paper on violent and nonviolent protest in the U.S.

  • Episode 55: Moment of Truth (w/ Robin Engel)

    June 15th, 2020  |  1 hr 1 min
    criminal justice, police, policing, race, social science

    My chat with University of Cincinnati criminal justice professor Robin Engel, who has also overseen a police department implementing police reforms after a shooting of an unarmed Black man.

  • Episode 54: There's Got To Be A Better Way (w/ Lamar Stewart)

    June 9th, 2020  |  59 mins 16 secs
    bias, black americans, police, policing, race

    A conversation with a Philadelphia County detective and former Vice-President of the Greater Philadelphia Chapter of the National Black Police Association, in which we discuss the George Floyd death, policing, and race.

  • Episode 53: The Pursuit (w/ Laurie Santos)

    June 4th, 2020  |  58 mins 8 secs
    choice, covid-19, happiness, psychology, well-being

    A discussion of happiness, with Yale University's Laurie Santos.

  • Episode 52: Married to the Mob

    May 18th, 2020  |  56 mins 53 secs
    donald trump, gop, political parties, republican party, u.s. politics

    A conversation with political scientists Julia Azari and Seth Masket, discussing the Republican Party in recent years.

  • Episode 51: Engaging Power (w/ Eitan Hersh)

    April 15th, 2020  |  45 mins 10 secs
    activism, political science, politics, slacktivism, social change

    My conversation with Eitan Hersh, as we discuss "political hobbyism" (sometimes also called "slacktivism"), but also some stories of deeper political engagement.

  • Episode 50: Wrong Tool for the Job (Brian Kalt, on the 25th Amendment)

    March 20th, 2020  |  43 mins 38 secs
    25th amendment, presidency, president, succession, trump

    My conversation with Michigan State's Brian Kalt, as we discuss the 25th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, Section 4.

  • Episode 49: "Fuck You" Money, And Then Some (Azari & Wood, on Campaign Finance)

    March 9th, 2020  |  1 hr 59 secs
    campaign finance, campaigns, elections, money, political parties

    A discussion of campaign finance, and more, with Julia Azari and Abby Wood.

  • Episode 48: The Episodic Man (Discussing Donald Trump w/ Dan McAdams)

    February 10th, 2020  |  1 hr 3 mins
    big five, narrative, personality, presidency, stories, trump

    Discussing the personality and narrative of Donald Trump, with Northwestern University's Dan McAdams.