web02.fireside.fm Sun, 05 Apr 2026 14:07:09 -0500 Fireside (https://fireside.fm) Tatter - Episodes Tagged with “Police” https://tatter.fireside.fm/tags/police Mon, 15 Jun 2020 07:00:00 -0400 This is a podcast exploring issues in politics and policy. Each episode features conversation with at least one subject matter expert, with a goal of helping listeners better understand the topic. en-us episodic Politics and Policy Michael Sargent This is a podcast exploring issues in politics and policy. Each episode features conversation with at least one subject matter expert, with a goal of helping listeners better understand the topic. no politics, policy, law Michael Sargent profsargent@gmail.com Episode 55: Moment of Truth (w/ Robin Engel) https://tatter.fireside.fm/55 383613dc-3794-4f4a-9db1-1e661dbe250a Mon, 15 Jun 2020 07:00:00 -0400 Michael Sargent full Michael Sargent My chat with University of Cincinnati criminal justice professor Robin Engel, who has also overseen a police department implementing police reforms after a shooting of an unarmed Black man. 1:01:19 no ABOUT THIS EPISODE As promised, here's another episode inspired by the killing of George Floyd, and the subsequent protests. In this one, I remain focused on police behavior. This is my interview with Robin Engel, Professor of Criminal Justice at the University of Cincinnati, as well as Director of the International Association of Chiefs of Police (IACP)/UC Center for Police Research and Policy. We discuss police decision-making--which she studies--as well as police reform. Not only has Engel studied these issues, but she's also been responsible for overseeing a department as it implemented reforms in the wake of a shooting of an unarmed Black man. LINKS --Robin Engel's UC profile (https://researchdirectory.uc.edu/p/engelrs) --Report of Engel's naming as Vice-President for Safety & Reform (https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2015/08/04/uc-engel-lead-public-safety/31101509/) --Body camera footage of the Samuel DuBose shooting (from The Guardian) (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2015/sep/01/samuel-dubose-killing-full-dashcam-video) --Does de-escalation training work? (Engel et al., 2020) (https://doi.org/10.1111/1745-9133.12467) --Moving beyond "best practices" (Engel et al., 2020) (https://doi.org/10.1177%2F0002716219889328) Special Guest: Robin Engel. police, policing, social science, criminal justice, race ABOUT THIS EPISODE
As promised, here's another episode inspired by the killing of George Floyd, and the subsequent protests. In this one, I remain focused on police behavior. This is my interview with Robin Engel, Professor of Criminal Justice at the University of Cincinnati, as well as Director of the International Association of Chiefs of Police (IACP)/UC Center for Police Research and Policy. We discuss police decision-making--which she studies--as well as police reform. Not only has Engel studied these issues, but she's also been responsible for overseeing a department as it implemented reforms in the wake of a shooting of an unarmed Black man.

LINKS
--Robin Engel's UC profile
--Report of Engel's naming as Vice-President for Safety & Reform
--Body camera footage of the Samuel DuBose shooting (from The Guardian)
--Does de-escalation training work? (Engel et al., 2020)
--Moving beyond "best practices" (Engel et al., 2020)

Special Guest: Robin Engel.

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As promised, here's another episode inspired by the killing of George Floyd, and the subsequent protests. In this one, I remain focused on police behavior. This is my interview with Robin Engel, Professor of Criminal Justice at the University of Cincinnati, as well as Director of the International Association of Chiefs of Police (IACP)/UC Center for Police Research and Policy. We discuss police decision-making--which she studies--as well as police reform. Not only has Engel studied these issues, but she's also been responsible for overseeing a department as it implemented reforms in the wake of a shooting of an unarmed Black man.

LINKS
--Robin Engel's UC profile
--Report of Engel's naming as Vice-President for Safety & Reform
--Body camera footage of the Samuel DuBose shooting (from The Guardian)
--Does de-escalation training work? (Engel et al., 2020)
--Moving beyond "best practices" (Engel et al., 2020)

Special Guest: Robin Engel.

]]> Episode 54: There's Got To Be A Better Way (w/ Lamar Stewart) https://tatter.fireside.fm/54 d107f1e6-a43e-4c79-819d-79832e60c7a5 Tue, 09 Jun 2020 07:00:00 -0400 Michael Sargent full Michael Sargent A conversation with a Philadelphia County detective and former Vice-President of the Greater Philadelphia Chapter of the National Black Police Association, in which we discuss the George Floyd death, policing, and race. 59:16 no ABOUT THIS EPISODE This is my conversation with G. Lamar Stewart, a detective and head of community engagement in the office of Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krasner. Stewart is a former Philadelphia police officer, and was also Vice-President of the Greater Philadelphia Chapter of the National Black Police Association. We discuss policing, including its connection to race, a timely topic in the wake of the death of George Floyd. LINKS --New York Times video essay on the chronology of the killing of George Floyd (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/31/us/george-floyd-investigation.html) --An article about the kind of community engagement work Stewart does (https://kywnewsradio.radio.com/articles/news/philly-da-launches-mobile-resource-hub-high-crime-areas) --Larry Krasner, Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Krasner) --Death of Breonna Taylor, Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Breonna_Taylor) --Intercept article on Bob Kroll (https://theintercept.com/2020/06/02/minneapolis-police-union-bob-kroll-shootings/) --New York Times article on police union leadership (also touches on Kroll) (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/06/us/police-unions-minneapolis-kroll.html) --New York Times article on the social media scandal involving Philadelphia police (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/20/us/philly-cops-plain-view-project.html) Special Guest: Lamar Stewart. policing, race, Black Americans, bias, police ABOUT THIS EPISODE
This is my conversation with G. Lamar Stewart, a detective and head of community engagement in the office of Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krasner. Stewart is a former Philadelphia police officer, and was also Vice-President of the Greater Philadelphia Chapter of the National Black Police Association. We discuss policing, including its connection to race, a timely topic in the wake of the death of George Floyd.

LINKS
--New York Times video essay on the chronology of the killing of George Floyd
--An article about the kind of community engagement work Stewart does
--Larry Krasner, Wikipedia
--Death of Breonna Taylor, Wikipedia
--Intercept article on Bob Kroll
--New York Times article on police union leadership (also touches on Kroll)
--New York Times article on the social media scandal involving Philadelphia police

Special Guest: Lamar Stewart.

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This is my conversation with G. Lamar Stewart, a detective and head of community engagement in the office of Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krasner. Stewart is a former Philadelphia police officer, and was also Vice-President of the Greater Philadelphia Chapter of the National Black Police Association. We discuss policing, including its connection to race, a timely topic in the wake of the death of George Floyd.

LINKS
--New York Times video essay on the chronology of the killing of George Floyd
--An article about the kind of community engagement work Stewart does
--Larry Krasner, Wikipedia
--Death of Breonna Taylor, Wikipedia
--Intercept article on Bob Kroll
--New York Times article on police union leadership (also touches on Kroll)
--New York Times article on the social media scandal involving Philadelphia police

Special Guest: Lamar Stewart.

]]> Episode 21: Brotherly Love https://tatter.fireside.fm/21 05d86729-6e6d-48ec-ae4d-7e30cfe139da Mon, 16 Jul 2018 05:00:00 -0400 Michael Sargent full Michael Sargent A conversation with G. Lamar Stewart, Vice-President of the National Black Police Association, Greater Philadelphia Chapter, touching on implicit bias, faith, community-police interactions, and more, including (of course) the infamous Starbucks arrest from this past April. 31:40 no On April 12, 2018, Donte Robinson and Rashon Nelson, two Black men, were waiting in a Philadelphia Starbucks for another man to join them for a business meeting. As was widely reported, they were asked to leave after not buying anything and ultimately were arrested for trespassing after refusing to leave. (The manager who called 911 is no longer with Starbucks.) As soon as I learned about this incident, I wanted to talk to a police officer in Philadelphia about what happened, how officers are trained to handle such incidents, and issues of policing and race more generally. G. Lamar Stewart, a Philadelphia police officer and, importantly, Vice-President of the National Black Police Association: Greater Philadelphia Chapter, agreed to this interview. We discussed the Starbucks arrest and a range of other issues, including his work as a minister. LINKS "Starbucks, police and mayor Respond to controversial arrest of 2 Black men in Philly" (NPR) (https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/04/14/602556973/starbucks-police-and-mayor-weigh-in-on-controversial-arrest-of-2-black-men-in-ph) "Philly cops issue new trespassing policy in response to criticism over Starbucks arrest" (Philadelphia Inquirer) (http://www.philly.com/philly/news/philadelphia-police-starbucks-trespass-policy-20180608.html) Memo describing the new trespassing policy (http://dig.abclocal.go.com/wpvi/pdf/060818-wpvi-philly-police-trespass-policy-PDF.pdf) Facebook page for the National Black Police Association Inc.: The Greater Philadelphia Chapter (https://www.facebook.com/National-Black-Police-Association-Inc-The-Greater-Philadelphia-Chapter-789283664492326/) "Taylor Memorial Baptist: Growing into a complete community church" (Philadelphia Tribune) (http://www.phillytrib.com/religion/taylor-memorial-baptist-growing-into-a-complete-community-church/article_7ffcef13-f3ec-575a-89fa-820de246cc3e.html) Cover art credit: Skyfox11 (from Wikimedia Commons, public domain images) Special Guest: Lamar Stewart. police, Philadelphia, National Black Police Association, race, Christianity On April 12, 2018, Donte Robinson and Rashon Nelson, two Black men, were waiting in a Philadelphia Starbucks for another man to join them for a business meeting. As was widely reported, they were asked to leave after not buying anything and ultimately were arrested for trespassing after refusing to leave. (The manager who called 911 is no longer with Starbucks.)

As soon as I learned about this incident, I wanted to talk to a police officer in Philadelphia about what happened, how officers are trained to handle such incidents, and issues of policing and race more generally. G. Lamar Stewart, a Philadelphia police officer and, importantly, Vice-President of the National Black Police Association: Greater Philadelphia Chapter, agreed to this interview.

We discussed the Starbucks arrest and a range of other issues, including his work as a minister.

LINKS
"Starbucks, police and mayor Respond to controversial arrest of 2 Black men in Philly" (NPR)
"Philly cops issue new trespassing policy in response to criticism over Starbucks arrest" (Philadelphia Inquirer)
Memo describing the new trespassing policy
Facebook page for the National Black Police Association Inc.: The Greater Philadelphia Chapter
"Taylor Memorial Baptist: Growing into a complete community church" (Philadelphia Tribune)

Cover art credit: Skyfox11 (from Wikimedia Commons, public domain images)

Special Guest: Lamar Stewart.

]]> On April 12, 2018, Donte Robinson and Rashon Nelson, two Black men, were waiting in a Philadelphia Starbucks for another man to join them for a business meeting. As was widely reported, they were asked to leave after not buying anything and ultimately were arrested for trespassing after refusing to leave. (The manager who called 911 is no longer with Starbucks.)

As soon as I learned about this incident, I wanted to talk to a police officer in Philadelphia about what happened, how officers are trained to handle such incidents, and issues of policing and race more generally. G. Lamar Stewart, a Philadelphia police officer and, importantly, Vice-President of the National Black Police Association: Greater Philadelphia Chapter, agreed to this interview.

We discussed the Starbucks arrest and a range of other issues, including his work as a minister.

LINKS
"Starbucks, police and mayor Respond to controversial arrest of 2 Black men in Philly" (NPR)
"Philly cops issue new trespassing policy in response to criticism over Starbucks arrest" (Philadelphia Inquirer)
Memo describing the new trespassing policy
Facebook page for the National Black Police Association Inc.: The Greater Philadelphia Chapter
"Taylor Memorial Baptist: Growing into a complete community church" (Philadelphia Tribune)

Cover art credit: Skyfox11 (from Wikimedia Commons, public domain images)

Special Guest: Lamar Stewart.

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