web01.fireside.fm Tue, 07 Apr 2026 07:51:26 -0500 Fireside (https://fireside.fm) Tatter - Episodes Tagged with “History” https://tatter.fireside.fm/tags/history Mon, 05 Nov 2018 07:00:00 -0500 This is a podcast exploring issues in politics and policy. Each episode features conversation with at least one subject matter expert, with a goal of helping listeners better understand the topic. en-us episodic Politics and Policy Michael Sargent This is a podcast exploring issues in politics and policy. Each episode features conversation with at least one subject matter expert, with a goal of helping listeners better understand the topic. no politics, policy, law Michael Sargent profsargent@gmail.com Episode 29: Mission Creep (On Carrying Implicit Bias Too Far) https://tatter.fireside.fm/29 7293f664-500f-453b-9424-fea2ef370ae7 Mon, 05 Nov 2018 07:00:00 -0500 Michael Sargent full Michael Sargent A conversation about implicit bias, and potential overextension and overapplication of it, with Jonathan Kahn, author of Race on the Brain. 31:37 no ABOUT THIS EPISODE Talk of implicit bias has moved far beyond its origin in psychology. It's spread to law journals, it informs training in many workplaces (including one famous coffeeshop chain (https://news.starbucks.com/press-releases/starbucks-to-close-stores-nationwide-for-racial-bias-education-may-29)), and it's entered popular discourse. Does that ubiquity carry risks? What balls are we potentially taking our eyes off of when we focus on implicit bias? These are the kinds of issues addressed in my conversation with Jonathan Kahn, the James E. Kelley Chair in Tort Law at the Mitchell Hamline School of Law, and author of the book Race on the Brain. LINKS --Jonathan Kahn's Mitchell Hamline webpage (https://mitchellhamline.edu/biographies/person/dr-jonathan-kahn/) --Race on the Brain: What Implicit Bias Gets Wrong About the Struggle for Racial Justice, by Jonathan Kahn (https://www.amazon.com/Race-Brain-Implicit-Struggle-Justice/dp/0231184247) --Project Implicit (https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/) --"How the GI Bill left out African Americans," by David Callahan (Demos) (https://www.demos.org/blog/11/11/13/how-gi-bill-left-out-african-americans) --Racism Without Racists, by Eduardo Bonilla-Silva (https://www.amazon.com/Racism-without-Racists-Color-Blind-Persistence/dp/1442276231/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_14_t_0?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=FVYNRHR64CMPPEK2PX0X) --"The American civil rights tradition: Anticlassification or antisubordination?" by Jack Balkin and Reva Siegel (https://law.yale.edu/system/files/documents/pdf/Faculty/Siegel_TheAmericanCivilRightsTraditionAnticlassificationOrAntisubordination.pdf) --"Chief Justice out to end affirmative action," by Jeffrey Toobin (CNN) (https://www.cnn.com/2013/02/28/opinion/toobin-roberts-voting-rights-act/index.html) --"Sotomayor accuses colleagues of trying to 'wish away' racial inequality," by Robert Barnes (Washington Post) (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sotomayor-accuses-colleagues-of-trying-to-wish-away-racial-inequality/2014/04/22/e5892f90-ca49-11e3-93eb-6c0037dde2ad_story.html?utm_term=.703dbfd627fa) Special Guest: Jonathan Kahn. implicit bias, IAT, racial justice, history, psychology ABOUT THIS EPISODE
Talk of implicit bias has moved far beyond its origin in psychology. It's spread to law journals, it informs training in many workplaces (including one famous coffeeshop chain), and it's entered popular discourse. Does that ubiquity carry risks? What balls are we potentially taking our eyes off of when we focus on implicit bias? These are the kinds of issues addressed in my conversation with Jonathan Kahn, the James E. Kelley Chair in Tort Law at the Mitchell Hamline School of Law, and author of the book Race on the Brain.

LINKS
--Jonathan Kahn's Mitchell Hamline webpage
--Race on the Brain: What Implicit Bias Gets Wrong About the Struggle for Racial Justice, by Jonathan Kahn
--Project Implicit
--"How the GI Bill left out African Americans," by David Callahan (Demos)
--Racism Without Racists, by Eduardo Bonilla-Silva
--"The American civil rights tradition: Anticlassification or antisubordination?" by Jack Balkin and Reva Siegel
--"Chief Justice out to end affirmative action," by Jeffrey Toobin (CNN)
--"Sotomayor accuses colleagues of trying to 'wish away' racial inequality," by Robert Barnes (Washington Post)

Special Guest: Jonathan Kahn.

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Talk of implicit bias has moved far beyond its origin in psychology. It's spread to law journals, it informs training in many workplaces (including one famous coffeeshop chain), and it's entered popular discourse. Does that ubiquity carry risks? What balls are we potentially taking our eyes off of when we focus on implicit bias? These are the kinds of issues addressed in my conversation with Jonathan Kahn, the James E. Kelley Chair in Tort Law at the Mitchell Hamline School of Law, and author of the book Race on the Brain.

LINKS
--Jonathan Kahn's Mitchell Hamline webpage
--Race on the Brain: What Implicit Bias Gets Wrong About the Struggle for Racial Justice, by Jonathan Kahn
--Project Implicit
--"How the GI Bill left out African Americans," by David Callahan (Demos)
--Racism Without Racists, by Eduardo Bonilla-Silva
--"The American civil rights tradition: Anticlassification or antisubordination?" by Jack Balkin and Reva Siegel
--"Chief Justice out to end affirmative action," by Jeffrey Toobin (CNN)
--"Sotomayor accuses colleagues of trying to 'wish away' racial inequality," by Robert Barnes (Washington Post)

Special Guest: Jonathan Kahn.

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