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    <title>Tatter - Episodes Tagged with “Covid 19”</title>
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    <itunes:author>Michael Sargent</itunes:author>
    <itunes:summary>This is a podcast exploring issues in politics and policy. Each episode features conversation with at least one subject matter expert, with a goal of helping listeners better understand the topic.
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  <title>Episode 64: Rogue (Conspiracy Theories, w/ Kelley-Romano &amp; Miller)</title>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2020 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Stephanie Kelley-Romano and Joanne Miller talk conspiracy theories with me.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>ABOUT THIS EPISODE
Even though some conspiracy theories are only endorsed by a small fraction of the population, it is likely a mistake to write off all who believe in conspiracy theories, especially since some theories are endorsed more widely, and with substantial effect. I discuss these issues with two conspiracy theory researchers: Stephanie Kelley-Romano of the Bates College Department of Rhetoric, Film, and Screen Studies, and Joanne Miller of the University of Delaware Department of Political Science &amp;amp; International Relations.
LINKS
--Stephanie Kelley-Romano's Bates College web profile (https://www.bates.edu/rhetoric-film-screen-studies/faculty/kelley-romano-stephanie/)
--Joanne Miller's University of Delaware web profile (https://www.poscir.udel.edu/people/faculty/MillerJ?uid=MillerJ&amp;amp;Name=Dr.%20Joanne%20Miller)
--"Trust no one: The conspiracy genre on American television," (Stephanie Kelley-Romano, in The Southern Communication Journal) (https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Stephanie_Kelley-Romano/publication/241744909_Trust_No_One_The_Conspiracy_Genre_on_American_Television/links/5cf7f826299bf1fb185ba603/Trust-No-One-The-Conspiracy-Genre-on-American-Television.pdf)
--"Make American hate again: Donald Trump and th birther conspiracy," (Stephanie Kelley-Romano &amp;amp; Kathryn Carew, in The Journal of Hate Studies) (https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Ryan_Scrivens/publication/330482179_The_Dangers_of_Porous_Borders_The_Trump_Effect_in_Canada_Journal_of_Hate_Studies/links/5c41dea092851c22a37ea15b/The-Dangers-of-Porous-Borders-The-Trump-Effect-in-Canada-Journal-of-Hate-Studies.pdf#page=40)
--"Conspiracy endorsement as motivated reasoning: The moderating roles of political knowledge and trust," (Joanne Miller, Kyle Saunders, &amp;amp; Christina Farhart, in American Journal of Political Science) (https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/ajps.12234)
--"Gender differences in COVID-19 conspiracy theory beliefs," (Erin Cassese, Christina Farhart, &amp;amp; Joanne Miller, in Politics &amp;amp; Gender) (https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/11E1C0AA1837CFA7E3926F5E9AF30782/S1743923X20000409a.pdf/div-class-title-gender-differences-in-covid-19-conspiracy-theory-beliefs-div.pdf)
--Little A'Le'Inn (Rachel, NV) (http://www.littlealeinn.com/) Special Guests: Joanne Miller and Stephanie Kelley-Romano.
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  <itunes:keywords>conspiracy theory, rhetoric, political science, psychology, COVID-19, voting</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>ABOUT THIS EPISODE</strong><br>
Even though some conspiracy theories are only endorsed by a small fraction of the population, it is likely a mistake to write off all who believe in conspiracy theories, especially since some theories are endorsed more widely, and with substantial effect. I discuss these issues with two conspiracy theory researchers: Stephanie Kelley-Romano of the Bates College Department of Rhetoric, Film, and Screen Studies, and Joanne Miller of the University of Delaware Department of Political Science &amp; International Relations.</p>

<p><strong>LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.bates.edu/rhetoric-film-screen-studies/faculty/kelley-romano-stephanie/" rel="nofollow">--Stephanie Kelley-Romano&#39;s Bates College web profile</a><br>
<a href="https://www.poscir.udel.edu/people/faculty/MillerJ?uid=MillerJ&Name=Dr.%20Joanne%20Miller" rel="nofollow">--Joanne Miller&#39;s University of Delaware web profile</a><br>
<a href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Stephanie_Kelley-Romano/publication/241744909_Trust_No_One_The_Conspiracy_Genre_on_American_Television/links/5cf7f826299bf1fb185ba603/Trust-No-One-The-Conspiracy-Genre-on-American-Television.pdf" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Trust no one: The conspiracy genre on American television,&quot; (Stephanie Kelley-Romano, in The Southern Communication Journal)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Ryan_Scrivens/publication/330482179_The_Dangers_of_Porous_Borders_The_Trump_Effect_in_Canada_Journal_of_Hate_Studies/links/5c41dea092851c22a37ea15b/The-Dangers-of-Porous-Borders-The-Trump-Effect-in-Canada-Journal-of-Hate-Studies.pdf#page=40" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Make American hate again: Donald Trump and th birther conspiracy,&quot; (Stephanie Kelley-Romano &amp; Kathryn Carew, in The Journal of Hate Studies)</a><br>
<a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/ajps.12234" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Conspiracy endorsement as motivated reasoning: The moderating roles of political knowledge and trust,&quot; (Joanne Miller, Kyle Saunders, &amp; Christina Farhart, in American Journal of Political Science)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/11E1C0AA1837CFA7E3926F5E9AF30782/S1743923X20000409a.pdf/div-class-title-gender-differences-in-covid-19-conspiracy-theory-beliefs-div.pdf" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Gender differences in COVID-19 conspiracy theory beliefs,&quot; (Erin Cassese, Christina Farhart, &amp; Joanne Miller, in Politics &amp; Gender)</a><br>
<a href="http://www.littlealeinn.com/" rel="nofollow">--Little A&#39;Le&#39;Inn (Rachel, NV)</a></p><p>Special Guests: Joanne Miller and Stephanie Kelley-Romano.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>ABOUT THIS EPISODE</strong><br>
Even though some conspiracy theories are only endorsed by a small fraction of the population, it is likely a mistake to write off all who believe in conspiracy theories, especially since some theories are endorsed more widely, and with substantial effect. I discuss these issues with two conspiracy theory researchers: Stephanie Kelley-Romano of the Bates College Department of Rhetoric, Film, and Screen Studies, and Joanne Miller of the University of Delaware Department of Political Science &amp; International Relations.</p>

<p><strong>LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.bates.edu/rhetoric-film-screen-studies/faculty/kelley-romano-stephanie/" rel="nofollow">--Stephanie Kelley-Romano&#39;s Bates College web profile</a><br>
<a href="https://www.poscir.udel.edu/people/faculty/MillerJ?uid=MillerJ&Name=Dr.%20Joanne%20Miller" rel="nofollow">--Joanne Miller&#39;s University of Delaware web profile</a><br>
<a href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Stephanie_Kelley-Romano/publication/241744909_Trust_No_One_The_Conspiracy_Genre_on_American_Television/links/5cf7f826299bf1fb185ba603/Trust-No-One-The-Conspiracy-Genre-on-American-Television.pdf" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Trust no one: The conspiracy genre on American television,&quot; (Stephanie Kelley-Romano, in The Southern Communication Journal)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Ryan_Scrivens/publication/330482179_The_Dangers_of_Porous_Borders_The_Trump_Effect_in_Canada_Journal_of_Hate_Studies/links/5c41dea092851c22a37ea15b/The-Dangers-of-Porous-Borders-The-Trump-Effect-in-Canada-Journal-of-Hate-Studies.pdf#page=40" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Make American hate again: Donald Trump and th birther conspiracy,&quot; (Stephanie Kelley-Romano &amp; Kathryn Carew, in The Journal of Hate Studies)</a><br>
<a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/ajps.12234" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Conspiracy endorsement as motivated reasoning: The moderating roles of political knowledge and trust,&quot; (Joanne Miller, Kyle Saunders, &amp; Christina Farhart, in American Journal of Political Science)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/11E1C0AA1837CFA7E3926F5E9AF30782/S1743923X20000409a.pdf/div-class-title-gender-differences-in-covid-19-conspiracy-theory-beliefs-div.pdf" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Gender differences in COVID-19 conspiracy theory beliefs,&quot; (Erin Cassese, Christina Farhart, &amp; Joanne Miller, in Politics &amp; Gender)</a><br>
<a href="http://www.littlealeinn.com/" rel="nofollow">--Little A&#39;Le&#39;Inn (Rachel, NV)</a></p><p>Special Guests: Joanne Miller and Stephanie Kelley-Romano.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 59: Hazardous Conditions (w/ Doug McConnell)</title>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2020 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Michael Sargent</author>
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  <itunes:author>Michael Sargent</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>When colleges and universities open to in-person instruction during a pandemic, which employees, if any, should receive hazard pay? My guest and I discuss.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>45:49</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>ABOUT THIS EPISODE
As the COVID-19 pandemic continues, many people have called for hazard pay for "essential workers" to compensate them for additional risks they encounter because they have to go in to work in person. For example, I'm aware of such calls for custodial workers at colleges and universities that have invited students to campus. Indeed, I've encountered such arguments at the institution where I teach. In this episode, I discuss such issues with philosopher Doug McConnell, who recently published on the topic. We talk about the conditions that can justify hazard pay, we discuss other forms of relevant compensation, we discuss the relevance of race and ethnicity, and we discuss more.
LINKS
--Doug McConnell's Oxford profile (https://www.practicalethics.ox.ac.uk/people/dr-doug-mcconnell)
--"Compensation and hazard pay for key workers during an epidemic: an argument from analogy," by Doug McConnell &amp;amp; Dominic Wilkinson, in the Journal of Medical Ethics (https://jme.bmj.com/content/medethics/early/2020/05/27/medethics-2020-106389.full.pdf)
--"UT employee petition urges regents to move most classes online, provide hazard pay," by Lara Korte, in the Austin American-Statesman (https://www.statesman.com/news/20200819/ut-employee-petition-urges-regents-to-move-most-classes-online-provide-hazard-pay)
--"A majority of workers are fearful of coronavirus infections at work, especially Black, Hispanic, and low- and middle-income workers," by Peter Dorman &amp;amp; Lawrence Mishel, from the Economic Policy Institute (https://www.epi.org/publication/covid-risks-and-hazard-pay/)
--"'Heroes or hostages?': Communities of color bear the burden of essential work in coronavirus crisis," by Catherine Thorbecke, for ABC News (https://abcnews.go.com/Business/heroes-hostages-communities-color-bear-burden-essential-work/story?id=70662472)
--"Balancing the duty to treat with the duty to family in the context of the COVID-19 pandemic," by Doug McConnell, in the Journal of Medical Ethics (https://jme.bmj.com/content/medethics/46/6/360.full.pdf) Special Guest: Doug McConnell.
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  <itunes:keywords>COVID-19, pandemic, hazard pay, philosophy, ethics</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>ABOUT THIS EPISODE</strong><br>
As the COVID-19 pandemic continues, many people have called for hazard pay for &quot;essential workers&quot; to compensate them for additional risks they encounter because they have to go in to work in person. For example, I&#39;m aware of such calls for custodial workers at colleges and universities that have invited students to campus. Indeed, I&#39;ve encountered such arguments at the institution where I teach. In this episode, I discuss such issues with philosopher Doug McConnell, who recently published on the topic. We talk about the conditions that can justify hazard pay, we discuss other forms of relevant compensation, we discuss the relevance of race and ethnicity, and we discuss more.</p>

<p><strong>LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.practicalethics.ox.ac.uk/people/dr-doug-mcconnell" rel="nofollow">--Doug McConnell&#39;s Oxford profile</a><br>
<a href="https://jme.bmj.com/content/medethics/early/2020/05/27/medethics-2020-106389.full.pdf" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Compensation and hazard pay for key workers during an epidemic: an argument from analogy,&quot; by Doug McConnell &amp; Dominic Wilkinson, in the <em>Journal of Medical Ethics</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.statesman.com/news/20200819/ut-employee-petition-urges-regents-to-move-most-classes-online-provide-hazard-pay" rel="nofollow">--&quot;UT employee petition urges regents to move most classes online, provide hazard pay,&quot; by Lara Korte, in the <em>Austin American-Statesman</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.epi.org/publication/covid-risks-and-hazard-pay/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;A majority of workers are fearful of coronavirus infections at work, especially Black, Hispanic, and low- and middle-income workers,&quot; by Peter Dorman &amp; Lawrence Mishel, from the <em>Economic Policy Institute</em></a><br>
<a href="https://abcnews.go.com/Business/heroes-hostages-communities-color-bear-burden-essential-work/story?id=70662472" rel="nofollow">--&quot;&#39;Heroes or hostages?&#39;: Communities of color bear the burden of essential work in coronavirus crisis,&quot; by Catherine Thorbecke, for <em>ABC News</em></a><br>
<a href="https://jme.bmj.com/content/medethics/46/6/360.full.pdf" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Balancing the duty to treat with the duty to family in the context of the COVID-19 pandemic,&quot; by Doug McConnell, in the <em>Journal of Medical Ethics</em></a></p><p>Special Guest: Doug McConnell.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>ABOUT THIS EPISODE</strong><br>
As the COVID-19 pandemic continues, many people have called for hazard pay for &quot;essential workers&quot; to compensate them for additional risks they encounter because they have to go in to work in person. For example, I&#39;m aware of such calls for custodial workers at colleges and universities that have invited students to campus. Indeed, I&#39;ve encountered such arguments at the institution where I teach. In this episode, I discuss such issues with philosopher Doug McConnell, who recently published on the topic. We talk about the conditions that can justify hazard pay, we discuss other forms of relevant compensation, we discuss the relevance of race and ethnicity, and we discuss more.</p>

<p><strong>LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.practicalethics.ox.ac.uk/people/dr-doug-mcconnell" rel="nofollow">--Doug McConnell&#39;s Oxford profile</a><br>
<a href="https://jme.bmj.com/content/medethics/early/2020/05/27/medethics-2020-106389.full.pdf" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Compensation and hazard pay for key workers during an epidemic: an argument from analogy,&quot; by Doug McConnell &amp; Dominic Wilkinson, in the <em>Journal of Medical Ethics</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.statesman.com/news/20200819/ut-employee-petition-urges-regents-to-move-most-classes-online-provide-hazard-pay" rel="nofollow">--&quot;UT employee petition urges regents to move most classes online, provide hazard pay,&quot; by Lara Korte, in the <em>Austin American-Statesman</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.epi.org/publication/covid-risks-and-hazard-pay/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;A majority of workers are fearful of coronavirus infections at work, especially Black, Hispanic, and low- and middle-income workers,&quot; by Peter Dorman &amp; Lawrence Mishel, from the <em>Economic Policy Institute</em></a><br>
<a href="https://abcnews.go.com/Business/heroes-hostages-communities-color-bear-burden-essential-work/story?id=70662472" rel="nofollow">--&quot;&#39;Heroes or hostages?&#39;: Communities of color bear the burden of essential work in coronavirus crisis,&quot; by Catherine Thorbecke, for <em>ABC News</em></a><br>
<a href="https://jme.bmj.com/content/medethics/46/6/360.full.pdf" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Balancing the duty to treat with the duty to family in the context of the COVID-19 pandemic,&quot; by Doug McConnell, in the <em>Journal of Medical Ethics</em></a></p><p>Special Guest: Doug McConnell.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 53: The Pursuit (w/ Laurie Santos)</title>
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  <pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2020 09:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Michael Sargent</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>A discussion of happiness, with Yale University's Laurie Santos.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>ABOUT THIS EPISODE
Psychologist Laurie Santos offered a course on well-being in 2018, and it became the most popular course ever offered at Yale University. Her online course also developed a strong following. Now she had a podcast called The Happiness Lab. I had a chance to talk with her about human happiness, and the ways in which our intuitions about what promotes happiness are often wrong. Our discussion includes a discussion of happiness in a time of a pandemic and of physical distancing, but also about happiness and race.
LINKS
Laurie Santos, Yale University (https://psychology.yale.edu/people/laurie-santos)
The Happiness Lab podcast (https://www.happinesslab.fm/)
Jeff Simmermon's Why You Should Be Happy (on Apple Music) (https://music.apple.com/us/album/why-you-should-be-happy/1504980720)
Ashley Whillans, Harvard Business School (https://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Pages/profile.aspx?facId=943704)
Sonja Lyubomirsky, UC-Riverside (https://profiles.ucr.edu/app/home/profile/sonja)
Anand Giridharadas, Winners Take All (https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/539747/winners-take-all-by-anand-giridharadas/9780451493248)
Dan Ariely, "Americans Want to Live in a Much More Equal Country (They Just Don't Realize It)" in The Atlantic (https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/08/americans-want-to-live-in-a-much-more-equal-country-they-just-dont-realize-it/260639/)
Scarcity: Why Having Too Little Means So Much, by Sendhil Mullainathan and Eldar Shafir (https://www.amazon.com/Scarcity-Having-Little-Means-Much-ebook/dp/B00BMKOO6S)
The Paradox of Choice: Why More Is Less, by Barry Schwartz (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000TDGGVU/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&amp;amp;btkr=1)
Our Declaration: A Reading of the Declaration of Independence in Defense of Equality, by Danielle Allen (https://www.amazon.com/Our-Declaration-Reading-Independence-Equality-ebook/dp/B00FPT5KYW)
The Blue Zones: Lessons for Living Longer From the People Who've Lived the Longest, by Dan Buettner (https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Zones-Lessons-Living-Longest/dp/1426207557)
The Enchiridion, by Epictetus (https://www.amazon.com/Enchiridion-Epictetus/dp/1503226948/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=1U66N1CQWPX7P&amp;amp;dchild=1&amp;amp;keywords=epictetus+enchiridion&amp;amp;qid=1591239645&amp;amp;s=digital-text&amp;amp;sprefix=epictetus+enc%2Cdigital-text%2C164&amp;amp;sr=1-1-spons&amp;amp;psc=1&amp;amp;spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyRkkwRE1QV0Y0M0s4JmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMTQ0NjkzM1BBVlRIRkpRUkJTSiZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNDAzMjgzVEUyQTRVWkdTU0M2JndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==) Special Guest: Laurie Santos.
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  <itunes:keywords>happiness, psychology, choice, well-being, COVID-19</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>ABOUT THIS EPISODE</strong><br>
Psychologist Laurie Santos offered a course on well-being in 2018, and it became the most popular course ever offered at Yale University. Her online course also developed a strong following. Now she had a podcast called The Happiness Lab. I had a chance to talk with her about human happiness, and the ways in which our intuitions about what promotes happiness are often wrong. Our discussion includes a discussion of happiness in a time of a pandemic and of physical distancing, but also about happiness and race.</p>

<p><strong>LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://psychology.yale.edu/people/laurie-santos" rel="nofollow">Laurie Santos, Yale University</a><br>
<a href="https://www.happinesslab.fm/" rel="nofollow">The Happiness Lab podcast</a><br>
<a href="https://music.apple.com/us/album/why-you-should-be-happy/1504980720" rel="nofollow">Jeff Simmermon&#39;s <em>Why You Should Be Happy</em> (on Apple Music)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Pages/profile.aspx?facId=943704" rel="nofollow">Ashley Whillans, Harvard Business School</a><br>
<a href="https://profiles.ucr.edu/app/home/profile/sonja" rel="nofollow">Sonja Lyubomirsky, UC-Riverside</a><br>
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/539747/winners-take-all-by-anand-giridharadas/9780451493248" rel="nofollow">Anand Giridharadas, <em>Winners Take All</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/08/americans-want-to-live-in-a-much-more-equal-country-they-just-dont-realize-it/260639/" rel="nofollow">Dan Ariely, &quot;Americans Want to Live in a Much More Equal Country (They Just Don&#39;t Realize It)&quot; in The Atlantic</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Scarcity-Having-Little-Means-Much-ebook/dp/B00BMKOO6S" rel="nofollow"><em>Scarcity: Why Having Too Little Means So Much</em>, by Sendhil Mullainathan and Eldar Shafir</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000TDGGVU/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1" rel="nofollow"><em>The Paradox of Choice: Why More Is Less</em>, by Barry Schwartz</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Our-Declaration-Reading-Independence-Equality-ebook/dp/B00FPT5KYW" rel="nofollow"><em>Our Declaration: A Reading of the Declaration of Independence in Defense of Equality</em>, by Danielle Allen</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Zones-Lessons-Living-Longest/dp/1426207557" rel="nofollow"><em>The Blue Zones: Lessons for Living Longer From the People Who&#39;ve Lived the Longest</em>, by Dan Buettner</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Enchiridion-Epictetus/dp/1503226948/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=1U66N1CQWPX7P&dchild=1&keywords=epictetus+enchiridion&qid=1591239645&s=digital-text&sprefix=epictetus+enc%2Cdigital-text%2C164&sr=1-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyRkkwRE1QV0Y0M0s4JmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMTQ0NjkzM1BBVlRIRkpRUkJTSiZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNDAzMjgzVEUyQTRVWkdTU0M2JndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==" rel="nofollow"><em>The Enchiridion</em>, by Epictetus</a></p><p>Special Guest: Laurie Santos.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>ABOUT THIS EPISODE</strong><br>
Psychologist Laurie Santos offered a course on well-being in 2018, and it became the most popular course ever offered at Yale University. Her online course also developed a strong following. Now she had a podcast called The Happiness Lab. I had a chance to talk with her about human happiness, and the ways in which our intuitions about what promotes happiness are often wrong. Our discussion includes a discussion of happiness in a time of a pandemic and of physical distancing, but also about happiness and race.</p>

<p><strong>LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://psychology.yale.edu/people/laurie-santos" rel="nofollow">Laurie Santos, Yale University</a><br>
<a href="https://www.happinesslab.fm/" rel="nofollow">The Happiness Lab podcast</a><br>
<a href="https://music.apple.com/us/album/why-you-should-be-happy/1504980720" rel="nofollow">Jeff Simmermon&#39;s <em>Why You Should Be Happy</em> (on Apple Music)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Pages/profile.aspx?facId=943704" rel="nofollow">Ashley Whillans, Harvard Business School</a><br>
<a href="https://profiles.ucr.edu/app/home/profile/sonja" rel="nofollow">Sonja Lyubomirsky, UC-Riverside</a><br>
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/539747/winners-take-all-by-anand-giridharadas/9780451493248" rel="nofollow">Anand Giridharadas, <em>Winners Take All</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/08/americans-want-to-live-in-a-much-more-equal-country-they-just-dont-realize-it/260639/" rel="nofollow">Dan Ariely, &quot;Americans Want to Live in a Much More Equal Country (They Just Don&#39;t Realize It)&quot; in The Atlantic</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Scarcity-Having-Little-Means-Much-ebook/dp/B00BMKOO6S" rel="nofollow"><em>Scarcity: Why Having Too Little Means So Much</em>, by Sendhil Mullainathan and Eldar Shafir</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000TDGGVU/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1" rel="nofollow"><em>The Paradox of Choice: Why More Is Less</em>, by Barry Schwartz</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Our-Declaration-Reading-Independence-Equality-ebook/dp/B00FPT5KYW" rel="nofollow"><em>Our Declaration: A Reading of the Declaration of Independence in Defense of Equality</em>, by Danielle Allen</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Zones-Lessons-Living-Longest/dp/1426207557" rel="nofollow"><em>The Blue Zones: Lessons for Living Longer From the People Who&#39;ve Lived the Longest</em>, by Dan Buettner</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Enchiridion-Epictetus/dp/1503226948/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=1U66N1CQWPX7P&dchild=1&keywords=epictetus+enchiridion&qid=1591239645&s=digital-text&sprefix=epictetus+enc%2Cdigital-text%2C164&sr=1-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyRkkwRE1QV0Y0M0s4JmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMTQ0NjkzM1BBVlRIRkpRUkJTSiZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNDAzMjgzVEUyQTRVWkdTU0M2JndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==" rel="nofollow"><em>The Enchiridion</em>, by Epictetus</a></p><p>Special Guest: Laurie Santos.</p>]]>
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